Okay, so Cin and I are STILL reeling from that episode. So much was happening, I was having a hard time keeping up with #VDBingo! There was sex, murder, manipulation, torture, anguish. Oh, god just the thought of Matty in the grips of that ice cold demonness! I can’t even… let’s just get into it. Here’s our roundtable discussion of last night’s ep — delayed because it’s still effing with us.
Main Players: Cin and Christina
We’re In a Glass Case of Emotion!!!!!
Cin: Where to start… well, my mind is FUCKED. I’ll start there. At the very end, after an hour that rivaled the reading of Mockingjay ((READ THESE BOOKS!!!)) for the emotional pain equivalent of childbirth, I screamed like Regina George when she found out the truth about Caltene bars. That gash Kathi is manipulating/threatening my Matty/Peeta!!! I. WILL. KILL. HER. MYSELF!!!
Christina: I didn’t scream, but I was left with one overwhelming thought: MATTY NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! *weeps* Why are you doing this, you cuntbasket? WHY?! This was so distressing, I don’t actually remember posting our #vdbingo wrap-up post, though I know I did. I couldn’t even start my reactions. I needed space. I mean, this coupled with the Elena/Stefan thing, the Jenna thing, the Caroline compelling her mom to forget everything, and to think that she made her soup but then went back to ignoring her! *sigh* Man.
Cin: Caroline SLAYED ME. I love her so much!!! *wibble*
Bye-bye, Uncle Douchenozzle
Christina: So, UM is dead. Does anyone care? Not I.
Cin: Not I either. Apparently some people do. *shrug* Apparently some people think that Damon is OMG!Bad for ending that useless tool’s life. Sorry. Damon is a vampire. Damon is PROTECTING everyone in his life. Damon did what somebody should have done weeks ago. Damon even tried to shield young Jer from the carnage. Some might try to say that he ripped his heart out because of Katherine & some warped jealousy, but I truly believe he is over her. He still feels the sting of the humiliation she served him emotionally sure. But that’s anger at himself. He is protecting Elena. He is protecting his town & his brother & his vamp sister Caroline. He is not only justified, but was RIGHT in saying that UM wanted him to kill him. To end the curse. I say BRAVO Damon Salvatore. You did everyone a service. Now calling Kathi to gloat might have been a bit much, but the fallback from that (which would have come either way, it was more a sooner-rather-that-later situation) was kinda severe. The fact that he felt responsible when he so wasn’t just proves how spun about Kat has everyone. She is winning. And it sucks.
Christina: I don’t know. I felt like the whole Katherine thing had a little to do with it. It was sort of jealousy, but not in the way you may think. I think he’s pretty much shut off the feeling to that part of his heart, the part where Katherine use to live, but it’s still a sort of jealousy in that, again, she’s picked someone who is NOT Damon Salvatore. That doesn’t mean I don’t think he’s not justified in killing UM, because he totes was. He was protecting everyone. But I wouldnt’ totally discount potential subconscious jealousy. Also, I think it’s funny. Twitter was all abuzz when Jenna tried eviscerating herself, but nary a peep when Damon ripped UM’s heart out. Which, you have to admit, is just further proof that Damon is AWESOME!
Cin: On my stream I saw mixed reviews to the UM heart removal. Most were cheering. A few were just kinda shocked. And then some (as stated above) were MAD at Damon for being bad. Ummm, hello, VAMPIRE. Plus, he did everyone a service. Bye- bye douchenozzle.
OH, THE STEARS!
Christina: Stefan’s tears. They made me cry. One thing that struck me as odd, though. I wonder why he was already crying when Elena comes to the house. Obviously he already knew about Jenna, but unless they had something going on the side, why would he be this upset? I mean, concerned for Elena, sure, but upset over Jenna? Maybe Stefan is just the new King of Emoland. But it just seems weird for him to cry over her. Unless he knew what was going to happen, knew what Elena was going to say to him. Last time I checked, he was no telepath, though. Unless he was crying for some unknown reason… !!!
Cin: I totes didn’t notice him crying before she came in. I thought he was just kinda healing & upset about the entire Kat situation. I’m sure he did know about Jenna by then, seeing as how the entire Gilbert clan was at the hospital. Still, I can NOT say enough about Paul Wesley in this scene. First he killed me with his anguished scream in the well of despair, then the tears… I’m crushed. I must say, PW is a lovely crier. Not many actors are, but I’d be willing to put him next to Jensen Ackles as Dean Winchester on Supernatural, a beautiful crier if ever there was one, as a master of TV crying. (I can actually SEE our friend Cat rolling her eyes at this ENTIRE section – hehe). And he broke me too. Of course, I was already crying because Candice Accola as Caroline BROKE MY HEART and made me love her even more – if that was possible. But yeah. A for REAL breakup for our core couple… Just tragic.
Christina: He wasn’t crying like he was after Elena broke it off, but his eyes were def glassy with emotion. And I agree. His crying was very… “easy” to watch. I mean, it broke me. It broke me hard. But, it wasn’t like
which just makes me uncomfortable. So, yes, DEFINITE kudos to Paul Wesley in this episode. Poor Stefan. I’ll comfort you.
Cin: I can’t believe you are invoking Dawson. That’s worse that JEARS. I feel dirty.
Torture: Plans A, B, C…
Christina: But speaking of, the vervain well of despair was interesting. For the first time since the first few episodes of Season 1, there’s something that’s slightly reminiscent of the books — when Stefan gets vervained and thrown in a well. Granted, it’s not exactly the same, but it’s an interesting parallel considering that the show has pretty much left the story of the books behind — AND MADE IT AWESOMER!
Cin: And Mrs. Flowers. Don’t forget about her! Kathi is staying at Mrs. Flower’s B & B (good thing too – The Salvatore Boarding House is staffed quite sufficiently, thank you very much!)
Christina: Oh, right! How did I miss that? But the well. The other interesting thing about the well is the kind of torture that it was, and how it turned out. Obviously this was Katherine’s play. I think it’s very telling that she went first with physical torture. I may have said this before in a reactions post, but I think Katherine is very superficial. Not in the way that she likes pretty people (which she obvs does), but in that she’s cunning, but she’s not very smart. This ties in with the whole Katherine not being wholly aware of people outside of herself. Her first impulse is physical torture, which I suppose is everyone’s. But the interesting thing — and the scary thing — is that it fails. Stefan and Elena escape, and Kathi learns from it. She adapts. She moves right along from physical to emotional. And she does it fast. And it’s working. Katherine is winning. This is not good.
Cin: And there were snakes! LORDY! WILL THE TORTURE EVER STOP?!?
Always Have a Back-up Werewolf
Christina: Infuriating, but good for a cliffhanger, we never got the answer to why Kathi would want the moonstone so desperately — did she just want Tyler all along, or now that UM’s dead, he’s option #2?
Cin: I do think Tyler is option #2 but she had to know that UM was not going to be long for the world as soon as the Salvatore brothers got wind of him being her were-bitch. PLUS she had to know that she tried to have them killed. I mean, she’s like all up in everyone’s shit, does she really underestimate our heroes that much? I kinda think she does.
Christina: Yes, that goes to the whole her being superficial and, in a way, naive. But she’s DEF dangerous. She’s devised all these “plans”, which are finally starting to work for her. She’s already separated Stefan and Elena. I suppose that the bonus would now be to destroy Matt, which would thus destroy Elena, which would thus destroy Stefan. Is this her game with our Matty/Peeta?! WHAT DOES SHE WANT A WEREWOLF FOR?!
Cin: You know what I want? KATHERINE’S HEAD ON A PLATE! With a succulent pear stuffed in her mouth. *nods*
Miscellaneous (cause our brains still hurt)
Christina: Damon feeling feelings again. I’m really glad that he hasn’t reverted back to the evil being that he was when we first met him. He’s come so far. Of course… I have a feeling Something Wicked This Way Comes… Oh, Damon. Just keep your wits about you, please.
Cin: Seriously! We finally got that spark of old Damon back I am NOT prepared to lose it anytime soon. I have faith in him. He’s pretty much on a mission now. A Damon with a goal is a productive Salvatore.
Christina: Oh, and Alaric, you look good in a kitchen. Go make me a quiche or something so I can eat it off of you… I mean… I need to be on you.
Cin: *purrrsss* Not nearly enough Alaric in this episode, I would have liked for him to be there exchanging bromance glances with Damon during the UM torture/death sequence. I guess they thought it’d be more poignant if Jer was a witness & no way Alaric would have let him stay.
Christina: I agree. That scene worked better without Alaric. Though I still object to the lack of Alaric in this episode. *pouts*
Cin: So Bonnie… *sigh* I’d like to first point out a what @morgenHH said last night in the #VDBingo comments: “Oh and has Bonnie risen to a new all time hypocrisy level?!?!? So what she does is cause aneurysms, so actually she pretty much kills people, only it’s OK because they heal quickly??? How is that any better than killing someone with a Gilbert ring?” To this comment I say – WORD! She is no better just because she claims to only do harm to supernatural creatures. She is projecting her own guilt about her Grams death onto the Salvatores & all vampires. She earns points for helping & starting to come around with Caroline. All in all, she was MUCH better in this episode, but she’s still on probation with me.
Christina: Double WORD! I don’t particularly think she’s better. I mean, you heard what Caroline was saying to Sheriff Mom, right? About how Bonnie didn’t make her cry or something. Like she’s the school bully? Shame on you, Bonnie. Take your stupid Mind Bullets and go back to Oz.
Cin: One consistency/HUH? problem did occur to me that is now bugging me: Why did Damon need Bonnie’s help in chaining up, carpet moving, etc. when he put UM into the torture chair? Isn’t he super-vampy strong? I know they don’t show them BEING very strong normally except when punching or kicking, but they totes are. In reality shouldn’t Damon be able to have lifted that chair with one hand. I know, I know, CGI budget, but he surely doesn’t need Bonnie’s help or shouldn’t anyway.
Christina: Good point. Maybe he’s been sneakily NOT drinking the HB? Nah, that’s not Damon’s style. It’s probably just a consistency goof. Kind of like when that Stackhouse chick FOREGETS SHE’S A TELEPATH!!! /other show rant.
So, what did you think of the episode? Will Sheriff Mom hop back on the Vervain Train, and be none the wiser about Caroline? When will Jer get a special weapons training from Alaric? How will Stefan and Elena cope with it being For Realz Over? And most importantly WILL MATTY/PEETA BE OKAY?!?